PIUG Discussion List Archives

The full PIUG Archives are kindly provided by Questel-Orbit. Special thanks are due to David Dickens and Willem Gabilly at Questel-Orbit for their ongoing support and for their assistance with the Archive Cleanup Project. The Questel-Orbit Archive site also provides a Search feature which can locate messages by content search as well as by title, author or date.

PIUG expresses its sincere appreciation to Thomson Scientific - Derwent for its long-standing hosting and support of the discussion list and archives until the PIUG List was migrated to the commercial service Listbox in November 2006. We recall special thanks to Kim Rabbitts and Tracy Davis at Derwent for their support in starting up the old PIUG-L, assistance with the Archive Cleanup Project. Thanks are also due to Derwent for providing the edited and HTML-converted Archives to Questel-Orbit for the Mirror Archives.

Browse the PIUG Archives in annual segments using these dropdown menus

Access to the Archives starting in November 2006 are available on to PIUG List subscribers by logging in via the form at http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=9135 and selecting the "Archives" tab.

Search the PIUG Archives using this custom Google Search box

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Alternatively, the PIUG Archives will be searchable in its entirety at http://www.questel.com/en/piug.htm.

History of the PIUG Discussion List and Archives

• 1988 to April 1995

  The PIUG list started out as a discussion list on Dialog's DialMail Bulletin Board facility. Messages were not archived there but some people saved copies anyway. Once the discussion list moved to internet email, messages dating from this incarnation were collected, but were never successfully converted to a format suitable for display on the current archives. Although conversion was desired and was planned at several times, there was always a lack of either the technical expertise, funding or personnel for such conversion. At this late date (1999), it is probably no longer worth the effort.

• April 1995 to April 1996

  Derwent offered their services to provide the first internet email incarnation of the PIUG discussion list, using the ListProc software. Sandra Unger began serving as sysop for the Discussion List. The archives were originally set up by Derwent to save messages in a batch mode with all the messages posted on a given day concatenated into a digest form and stored in the archive by date. This meant that only the title of the first message posted on any given date could be searched by title, and that all subsequent messages were concatenated to it, not individually listed. Many, but not all of the messages from this period have now been found and edited to list separately in the current archives (the oldest message in the current archives dates to October, 1995).

• April 1996 to October 2006

  Derwent moved to MajorDomo software for the discussion list. William Murray took over as sysop for the Discussion List in May, 1998. Messages from this time period were captured by Derwent in a hypermail 1.02 Archive, but, at least in the early months, they were often still captured from digest form. These early messages have now been edited and separated into individually titled messages in the current archives.

• November 2006 to the present

  The PIUG Discussion List was moved to the commercial hosting service, Listbox. Access to archives starting in November 2006 are available on to PIUG List subscribers by logging in via the form at http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=9135 and selecting the "Archives" tab. The full archive is accessible in yearly segments and searchable in its entirety at http://www.questel.com/en/piug.htm.

Archive Cleanup Project

• In May, 1998, Elvin Hoel volunteered to lead a cleanup project to edit the available archives records, removing irrelevant messages and separating the archives into several smaller segments - to reduce the display time, and to separate out into a separate archive all Job Posting messages for ease of future reference. Other volunteers who helped with the clean up are Barbara Burg, Alan Engel, Catherine Misner, Edlyn Simmons, Tony Trippe, and Fred vanderSteur. As a consequence, all available records were individually reviewed, edited if necessary to separate into individual messages, and the archives separated into four segments:
• PIUG 1999 (the "new, dirty archives", not yet cleaned)

• PIUG 1998 (cleaned-up through Dec. 17)

• PIUG 1995-97 (cleaned-up, 100+ older messages added thanks to Fred vanderSteur)
  Job Postings (all job postings from the 96-98 archives, separated into their own archive)

These and all more recent archive segments are provided by Questel-Orbit at http://www.questel.com/en/piug.htm.

PIUG Discussion List and Archives Co-chairs/Co-moderators

Contact A.J. D'Ambra and Tom Wolff (piug_discussion_list-owner @ v2.listbox.com) with any questions or problems.

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